A Good Read pt2: The Great Debate

Jackie Untoldtruth Christie--Life I'm loving your new book! Very inspiring! August 1 via mobile

Jackie Untoldtruth Christie Horemheb Ankh Atum Re you did a fabulous job on the graphics!

August 2 at 1:07am

William Montu Miller Bang them in the head brov

August 2 at 1:23am via mobile

Chris Baylor What about life's spoken language? It's called the Bible. Do you know it? It's author is God

August 2 at 5:31am

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August 2 at 3:47pm · Edited · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Im not reading too much into at all. In fact, I don't plan on reading it at all. If people need to be inspired, they should read Psalms or Proverbs. That's the problem. People turn to everything but God or His living word. This world is filled with too many false gods, idols and distractions. Like I said. Need a good read? Want to be inspired. Study the Bible. Those who know this already understand.

August 2 at 8:43pm via mobile · Like

Lem Taylor Chris should research the council of Nicea?

August 2 at 11:20pm · Like

William Montu Miller Chris should research many things about what she is calling the word of God. Not everyone is Christian but we should be able to have healthy discussions about this world we live in, without it always reverting to what someone needs to read. I grew up in the Christian church and I just don't feel it's for me, but by all means I hope it makes some people's lives better. There's many different colors, plants, animals and religions for a reason. We live in a diverse world.

Saturday at 1:18am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor The exact reason why you've missed the point. There are many ways the devil can inflict confusion on the minds of those who choose to ignore God. The one and only true God. There is only one in case you hadn't noticed. But how would you know when there are plenty false gods before you? Just because you grew up in a Church doesn't mean you chose to listen. Not all Churches preach the Word of God. Not all Churches are Churches. Learn the difference. Also, not everyone who attends Church hears the Word of God, or accepts it. So please stop making excuses. If you ever studied the Word of God, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Obviously you've chosen a wicked path separate from God and choose not to believe. Otherwise your statement would have been different. When God comes knocking, and you chose to listen and open the door, then let us one day talk about real inspiration. In the meantime, God bless your soul. Hopefully one day you will find a real Church home, hear and accept the Word of God.

Saturday at 2:04am · Like

William Montu Miller I will stay on my evil path and you stay on your self righteous path. I'm gonna let you have it chris. Years ago I would of went back and forth with you and backed my position up with facts not faith, but those days are behind me. I will just say peace, love and harmony be with you. Closed minds only help keep my mind open and sharp. Thank you so much for providing another example of why it's impossible to talk to many Christians.

Saturday at 2:15am via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor But your mind isn't open. It's closed to righteousness, and open to all the devil has to offer. I never proclaimed to be self righteous. That's what angry people say. Clearly you have some pinned up anger inside that existed long before we met. No one here is arguing or debating facts. I simply stated my comment and that was it. You could have simply shut your mouth and said nothing. If you truly had an open mind, you would have taken that action. But obviously your harboring anger and judgment against the people of God and God himself. If you rely so much on the world system, perhaps you should see a psychiatrist, and shed some of those issues you have lurking inside you. If something went on in your Church that impacted you in a negative way, you should talk about it. But understand this. It wasn't God's fault. Everyone blames Him. If you choose not to believe in God, and now spend all your time focused on wicked things, then those things will impact your life in a negative way. So don't blame God, blame yourself and the devil. Your choosing the wrong side, and you wonder why your so angry. Come home my friend.

Saturday at 2:23am · Like

William Montu Miller In closing, I don't blame the creator or the church my wonderful mother raised me in. I just grew up and was able to distinguish fact from faith and research history and all the wonderful things that have come and gone. I thank you for Each of your posts. Seriously you got it chris, live your righteous life and serve the creator. Harmony be with you. I love you.

Saturday at 8:28am via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Faith is fact my friend. If you understood the Bible, you would know. But I see you prefer the word of man over the Word of God. Pretty weak closing. But that is always expected of those who choose to live a worldly existence. In my experience, people who read 1,000,000's of books can never trump the knowledge and wisdom of Jesus Christ. Like you said. All those things have come and gone, but God is still present. Unlike like your books and authors who decay in the dust. But you'll see. You will see for sure.

Saturday at 3:41pm · Like

Jackie Untoldtruth Christie Wow. You guys are going hard. For the record my joy of reading and sharing many forms of literature that I enjoy under no shape or form is to be blasphemous towards gods word the Bible. This is a diverse universe and most of us stand divided by personal believes to gain favor from "society norms". I love to read the thoughts of those who are willing to share there views of the world and there life experience dead or alive, and the Bible daily. Stay alert stay informed but most important keep the peace everyone.

Saturday at 4:34pm · Like · 1

William Montu Miller I love you sis Jackie. Such a warm spirit. Big hug for you

Saturday at 4:38pm via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor My thoughts exactly. People can read whatever they want, and increase their knowledge of the world and life exponentially. My comment was never intended to be offensive. But people who despise God and His Word always take offense when the Bible or Jesus Christ is mentioned. I only added saying, the Bible is also inspirational. But people who don't know God will never understand, and argue against true understanding and wisdom. Sad your friend has Church and mommy abandonment issues. But speaks in a twisted tongue like the devil. If they didn't have any gripes, they would never make such comments against God's children. Obviously the world and all it's knowledge has very little to offer. Sad. Truly.

Saturday at 6:15pm · Like

Whit L Johnson Jackie I am excited to read this book and expand my horizons. After reading these comments I am extremely disappointed that a Christian is writing this way. chris you are being rude and perpetrating all the stereotypes that have pe ople running away from the church and God. If you are God's child you would know its down right wrong and over stepping your boundaries to call some one evil or pass any sort of judgement. Instead you should of stopped but instead you just put down and disrespected someone, but to prove what. william gave you peace and you bashed him and his mother. moments like this are disappointing for me as a Christian.

Saturday at 10:13pm · Like · 2

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper agreed...

Saturday at 10:19pm · Like

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper Thank you Whit... *PROUD CHRISTIAN*

Saturday at 10:19pm · Unlike · 1

Chris Baylor Not at all. I'm not portraying any stereotypes or overstepping my boundaries in any way. Perhaps you also need to study the Word of God. People are running away from the Church because they simply choose not to believe. One should never react based on what "people" are doing. Because in the end, it's God who judges all. Not believing in an almighty living God because of what a human does? A pretty pathetic excuse to throw your life away, now. So please don't be so ignorant. God gives us a option to choose. William stated he chooses facts over faith. My statements are fact. He has issues with the Church and God long before I stepped onto the scene. Believe me. It comes from his mother and something inside his Church. These are facts, not judgement. People today don't even know the difference, and their lack of education is annoying. No one cast judgement. If one chooses a life away from God, how is that not a path of sin? It's a fact, not judgement. A life without God is a life of sin and is deemed evil. Please go back to school and learn the difference.

Saturday at 10:46pm · Like

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper The beauty of God is prayer...I am the daughter of a minister....a hard core minister...but even having said that can love all and listen to each ones point of view....though you may not agree with these gentlemen and their choices...they are very strong upstanding men...I have spent quite a while learning from them and can assure you though they have chosen different paths from our faith they are still strong in the community and care for humanity as a whole...and plead with you to not to bring in their loved ones in the discussion as they are not here to weight in their thoughts....

Saturday at 11:03pm · Like · 1

Joshua Cooper dang dude I ain't even in this I just hate when people try to push their agenda on me

Saturday at 11:15pm · Like

Chris Baylor Lol@ Joshua. Wow. Why do people think having a calm demeanor and walking on eggshells is what a Christian is supposed to be. That's all fine and dandy. But no one is pushing agendas or telling people what to read. Obviously people on this post have a comprehension level far below average, and have completely missed the point has on this one. Ok, so they've chosen different paths, but fact is fact. They've chosen a path separate from God, regardless of how strong they are in the community. If you're a hardcore minister, you should know God doesn't judge a person based on works. You've also missed the boat. Perhaps we need to talk offline about faith and fiction. Like I said. You need to re-educate yourself in the Word of God. I've known people going to Church for 50 years, and the Holy Spirit is still absent from their lives. Helping all of humanity with good deeds won't save a soul from the depths of hell. People buck and lash out when we talk about sin and judgement from God. Fact is fact. He has issues he needs to deal with and you need to re-educate yourself about what God's Word really means. Minister or no minister.

Saturday at 11:29pm · Like

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper you sir are offensive and there is no reasonable talking to you I can't believe you would go there...my daddy is 74 years old and you have no clue of our family, it's values, or his teachings...even GOD HIMSELF doesn't force the ANGELS to force Christianity on those who choose to not believe...you sir: Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth... does not mean talk judgment in your own hands...YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE AND RUDE BY ALL MEANS OF THE DEFINITION...so may GOD have mercy on a soldier who is so into himself that he misses all elements of GOD...PRAYING FOR YOU SOUL...I'm done Jackie Untoldtruth Christie Bless you love for your open heart...Life and Montu we are not one the same chapter or page of life but we will reach the end successfully...I'm out...

Saturday at 11:43pm · Like · 2

Joshua Cooper it's not the demeanor it's that a friend wrote a bout and instead of support which life is all about you said I'm not gonna read your book anyway and pick up a bible and I know some of them ain't into Christianity like that and I respect them

Saturday at 11:44pm · Like · 2

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper well said love....

Saturday at 11:46pm · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Still not sure what all the ruckus is about. Why is everyone so upset? Just because you can remember a line from Timothy doesn't mean you know or understand the word of God. That's pretty pathetic. How many people recite John 3:16, but have no idea what it means? Clearly you don't know scripture. Why would you use part of the gospel that bears no meaning on this conversation? Like I said. Fact. You don't know the love of Jesus if you're upset over a conversation that has nothing to do with you. No one ever mentioned your daddy or his age. Also, how am I a hypocrite, pushing agenda's or judging people? Everyone here keeps casting blame and false preaching. Are you sure you're on the same path? Hey. I never claimed to be more self righteous than anyone. But obviously your extremely upset, because you can't even read or comprehend what I write. Everything I've said is fact. I understand the human psyche more than most. So it's easy to decipher if a person is angry or has mommy issues. You should increase your faith a little more.

Saturday at 11:50pm · Like

Chris Baylor Joshua. I have no idea what you're talking about. Perhaps you should return to junior high school to learn proper grammar and sentence structure. Like I said. Fact and comprehension is lacking very much in this thread. Perhaps it's best not to have a discussion with ignorant preschoolers.

Saturday at 11:54pm · Like

Joshua Cooper ooooh correcting my grammar sweet but jabroni in like your 3rd comment you basically said scrw his book and go read the bible you idiots that how I took it and I'm going to do something more important than dealing with you like go watch cat videos on youtube or something

Saturday at 11:56pm · Like · 1

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper . If you're a hardcore minister, you should know God doesn't judge a person based on works. You've also missed the boat. {your Quote}.... That's pretty pathetic. [judgement].....Are you sure you're on the same path? [questioning judgement].....because you can't even read or comprehend what I write. [i'm going to judge you]...So it's easy to decipher if a person is angry or has mommy issues. You should increase your faith a little more. [HUH]....Now judge : definition: Form an opinion or conclusion about. (Just because you can remember a line from Timothy doesn't mean you know or understand the word of God. )...you read and then make the call MR. UMPIRE....

Sunday at 12:00am · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Hey. Did you selfishly like your own comment? Lol. No, I never said that. Like I said. Fact comes into play again. It's how you perceived my comment, because people here have a severe lack of comprehension. I simply said the Bible is the best source of inspiration. It truly is. It's not a story book. It's the Word of God. That's not pushing any agenda. If people can read whatever they want, I can post a short comment like I want. Free world, right? Please people, stop being so ignorant.

Sunday at 12:01am · Like

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper perhaps you should take your own advise seeing as no one has liked their own comment...

Sunday at 12:05am · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Oooooo. I like being called an Umpire. That's pretty awesome. Thanks. Ok. Here we go. Education time like always. #1. If anyone is a minister or preacher, they should know the Word of God. Pathetic if they do not. That's not judgement. #2. Are you sure you're on the same path? It's a question, not judgement. #3. You haven't been comprehending what I write because you spin off in another direction far from what I'm talking about. This is usually and indication of anger. Fact, not judgement. It's an educated assessment. Like when a doctor prescribes medicine. It's not judgement. #4. Many people remember lines from the Bible. Does not mean they are Christians. See. This is another reason why people run from the Church. Most people who attend don't truly know God or his Word and they try to "minister" to others. That's another fact. It's like a kindergartner teaching a pilot how to fly a 747. Eventually they will crash because they were never given proper instruction. Not judgement, all facts. Not an opinion.

Sunday at 12:11am · Like

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper WOW your are not even ABLE to be open minded to a discussion...for first of all I am not a minister my father is...as mentioned earlier.....second anytime you weight your thought again another your judging their opinion...FACT...you #2 I will give you cuz that's another subject of it's own...third as for your #3 perhaps your right for you seam mean and hateful by your comments as I don't know you as do you not know me....so since your mind is so closed I will close with this... as long as you are unable to converse with others with different opinions you wont win souls for Christ..for even as I will pray for you..... Christian for all my life...I feel I am entertaining a false profit...so in conclusion I wish you well and pray God will bridle your tongue and release it in the tight form with which it can be use for His will (If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.) and with that I will unfollow this post and wish you well... *GOD BLESS*

Sunday at 12:37am · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Wow. Who's judging who now? Also running away from a discussion. That is what the devil does when God is mentioned, and you're calling me a false prophet? HUH? Who said I was a prophet? I never prophesied anything. Also, I could have swore you said you're a hardcore minister. But hey, I'm not running away from a discussion, which proves I'm more open minded than you. More than a minister. Because although you may deem this as an argument, I'm listening to everyone's opinion. So, I guess what you're telling me, is if someone has a different opinion than someone else, it's judgement? Wow. You really are ignorant and should remove yourself from this post. As it was never about you to begin with. So I bid you farewell. Again, your scripture is unwarranted and of topic. Which means, you don't know scripture. That is pathetic. People who don't know God's word do run away. Sad. Very sad.

Sunday at 12:45am · Like

Jackie Untoldtruth Christie Wow wow. The levels of insults coming from you to prove your point Chris Baylor toward Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper Lem Taylor William Montu Miller Josh,Whit & their family speaks volumes! The division caused by discussions like this one to prove who is more christ like have caused millions to die in wars wasted blood and millions to live with the mental scars throughout history! All the world needs is love. You don't have to insult people to prove your point Chris. All in all I love you all! This didn't have to go so far. Dreaded minds Athens underground family peace

Sunday at 12:53am · Like · 2

Chris Baylor Ok. For those of you reading. Go back to the beginning. Read my comment. It was simple. I never started throwing insults at anyone. You're people started it because they harbor anger towards God. They're ignorant. It's exactly why the Bible says not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. Case and point. They are the ones causing the division. But people here are routing for the devil instead of having an intelligent conversation. But your friend insists if people have a difference in opinion, they are judging. That's ignorant. I won't pacify anyone. I'll call it what it is. So, if you want to remove me as a friend, I don't mind. The conversation started off between me and you. It was never directed towards anyone other than you. You of all people know I like to have a good conversation.

Sunday at 1:00am · Like · 1

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper Jackie Christie thx love...we let the minds dread...one love one mic

Sunday at 1:22am via mobile · Like · 2

Chris Baylor Lol. See Jackie. Like I said, fact. I was going to comment about your friend, but I waited. The proof is in the pudding. Removing herself from this thread. Not likely. I knew it. Calling me a hypocrite. Wow. What a liar. Thankyou Jesus for allowing to stand against the devil! Praise Him. Praise God, Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior  What a pathetic bunch. The devil has nothing on a living God. Amen.

Sunday at 1:29am · Like

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper Newsflash I was tagged in a comment...duh automatic notification... wow...new to fb????

Sunday at 1:34am via mobile · Like · 2

Chris Baylor Yes. I'm new to FB. Welcome friend  I don't really waste my time on social media. It's kind of pathetic. I only use it to upload photos for my family to see. But, decided it's a good way to keep in touch with old friends.  I never comment like this, but this conversation was interesting. Thankyou so much for your insight. It was never to "win any souls", Worker bee. No heaven for works!  Hope you learned something.

Sunday at 1:38am · Like

Jackie Untoldtruth Christie Go to bed Chris Baylor! You've had enough fun for one day.

Sunday at 1:49am · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Awwwwwwwwww. Ok mommy.

Sunday at 1:50am · Like

William Montu Miller Obviously I'm not a Christian but I do believe in the creator and have done much for the community. If that makes me evil or shows my "mommy issues" well I guess I'm evil and have mommy issues. I love a good discussion but when one side talks down to the other well "ain't nobody got time for that" lol. Peace to everyone no exceptions. It could of been a constructive convo and in a way very informative for me. Well maybe not informative but verifying. Thank you chris for your posts. My whole family is Christian and many of my friends follow that path, so I have seen and talked to the good, the bad and the ugly. I know you don't represent the whole Christian faith, like I don't represent every black man living in America. I am who I am and I strive to be a better human being everyday I breath. Your words are your opinion and to you they are facts, I live on a different path and again if I'm going to what Christians call hell just because I'm not a Christian, well i guess i better get ready for the fire. I can only do what I feel in my mind, body and soul are right. I love all you, no exceptions. Peace and nappiness

Sunday at 2:47am via mobile · Like · 1

William Montu Miller quote from Kalama Sutta:

“Now, Kalamas, don’t go by reports, by legends, by traditions, by scripture, by logical conjecture, by inference, by analogies, by agreement through pondering views, by probability, or by the thought, ‘This contemplative is our teacher.’ When you know for yourselves that, ‘These qualities are skillful; these qualities are blameless; these qualities are praised by the wise; these qualities, when adopted & carried out, lead to welfare & to happiness’ — then you should enter & remain in them.”

Sunday at 2:59am via mobile · Like

William Montu Miller Brov Reggie Sykes you gotta read this thread, entertaining brov.

Sunday at 3:02am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor The creator? Here we go again. Jackie, the devil keeps acting up. I gotta put my foot on his neck. It's always the same with those who try to curtail the wisdom of God and obtain their own forsaken knowledge, yet have no idea what to do with it once they have it. Then the readers just repeat a bunch of ramblings and philosophical quotes with no meaning exerted and copied from words written by imperfect men. People don't like the truth. No one here is put down. If you're missing a leg, I say your leg is missing, it's a fact. But you continue to argue the fact that all your goods deeds will take you to a better place, therefore you don't need to believe in Christ Jesus. Ignorance. Works are better than faith in God? So by all means. Help 1000 old ladies across the street. Talking down? You treat the Bible like it's a bedtime story. Referring to Christians as some sort of deadly plague that needs to be pacified. It's all in your undertones. BTW. I do represent the whole Christian faith, because I'm Christian. I represent the body of Christ that is meant to deliver blows to ignorant people like you. Then there are those who only see, and never react. Those who walk away, and those who only listen. The gospel can be delivered in more than one way. You deserved a spanking my friend, and so you got it. Yes Reggie Sykes. Please read this post. I'm sure you will find it entertaining.

Sunday at 3:17am · Like

William Montu Miller Again thanks chris your a perfect example

Sunday at 4:59am via mobile · Like

William Montu Miller This is classic.

Sunday at 5:03am via mobile · Like

William Montu Miller Chris's sword drinks the blood of nonbelievers. I really could give you a factual history lesson but it wouldn't matter and be a waste. Again thank you chris. I work third shift and you have been very entertaining

Sunday at 5:17am via mobile · Like

William Montu Miller Brov Lem Taylor I didn't mean to start no trouble, it's your book. It's so controversial. Naw you know I'm just playing. Great work, I can't wait to get me a copy. I be sure to blast my sites, mass text and email lists. In the words of our honorable ancestor Marcus Mosiah Garvey "One aim, One destiny- one God"

Sunday at 5:34am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Hmmmm, more excuses. I'd like to hear you fallible argument about why you'd make it to heaven on a history lesson. Please, do share. Wow. Now I'm shedding the blood of nonbelievers? Interesting and pathetic  Your ignorance is also classic, as it's been around for ages. Millions of books published, yet 1 still stands the test of time. All your whining and quotes won't save your soul. Sad. What a sad creature.

Sunday at 6:03am · Like

William Montu Miller Shedrick Barnett my Christian brov. I love you. Giovanni Richardson you know I love you sis, Tashia Pittard a beautiful voice and a great spirit- sis I love you, Eugene Willis Jr brov I've loved you for many years, Lisa Redmond Nowell I miss you and love you. Anthony Andre Hill love ya brov. Let me stop. I just wanted to open up the discussion to some others. Now lets have a healthy convo like we always do.

Sunday at 7:56am via mobile · Like · 1

Tashia Pittard Thank You for the The Tag! I must check it out!

Sunday at 8:02am via mobile · Like

Tashia Pittard William Miller I love you too Bruh!

Sunday at 8:03am via mobile · Like

William Montu Miller Btw chris, that line about the sword is from a killah priest song: "my sword will drink the blood of an unbeliever", I didn't expect you to get that but I thought it fit perfect. If you knew me you would know I'm so far from being ignorant but in your eyes "I'll be that" (Red man lyric). Do you happen to know how many books predate the bible? The ironic thing is, many if the stories in the bible are just retold stories from a very very long time ago. But like I said I won't go into history cuz it is just a waste of time. And I'm so not worried about my soul, you can say I'm ignorant, have mommy issues, going to hell... "It's okay- one more quaalude, she love me again" (scarface line). Naw I'm joking. But if God sends me to the hell fire for living the life I have lead, well I don't wanna serve. In the beginning...

Sunday at 8:06am via mobile · Like · 1

William Montu Miller Tashia Pittard it's good entertainment. I have not had cable in three years and don't want it. But it's discussions like this that will forever be better than anything on television.

Sunday at 8:07am via mobile · Like · 3

William Montu Miller People please tag anyone you think can add some healthy knowledge, wisdom and understanding.

Sunday at 8:09am via mobile · Like · 1

William Montu Miller Roderick Balam come on down to the price is right. Ron Belvin my good friend, how you been. Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller my cuzzo. Repunza TheSinger beautiful voice sing us a good spiritual

Sunday at 8:13am via mobile · Like · 2

Tashia Pittard William Miller Yes so I have read..here's my take Bruh, I am more Spiritual than religious, I was raised Christian...however God is bigger than religion... there's no need to argue or fight about it, we should consider the fact we call him by many names but he is one. If we were to study all true religions is on the thousand years old, they all have a common thread it's love. Being spiritual I was able to connect to that love, is the love the Creator there's no need to argue over who is right. The Most High called by many names but he is the same! He created us therefore he lives inside of us. No matter what part of the world you born in you found his love in some word. The know my brother long as you believe in something I believe in you. Because you're strong enough man to know that you didn't create yourself, You know that you know the Creator. I Love you even if you didn't have a religion just because the father created you! Well just spirits living side of human body's trying to find my way, what is this listing is complete removal is human body back to the spirit. Doesn't matter for Muslim Christian Jewish, or Buddhist. Matters is how the Spirit is taught o love to move on from this life to the next.

Sunday at 8:19am via mobile · Like · 4

William Montu Miller wait for it wait for it...

Sunday at 8:22am · Like · 3

Tashia Pittard William Miller I'm being lazy using auto type which explains what's my words come out wrong, sorry lol . Just know my brother it doesn't matter what religion you're in, It matters what your spirit received having a human experience....

Sunday at 8:23am via mobile · Like · 2

William Montu Miller This thread is so beyond about just me. I'm good with my standing in the world. I don't want to argue, just healthy discussions with a twist of entertainment. But seriously I am gonna sleep now. shift is over and it's my night time. until later 2

Sunday at 8:25am · Like · 4

Tashia Pittard William Miller Peace to you my Brotha, and thank you for the discussion...get some rest!

Sunday at 8:27am via mobile · Like · 1

Roderick Balam Knowledge is knowledge. Personally, my favorite books of the bible are psalms & proverbs. You can gain a huge wealth of knowledge from the book that is a lamp to my feet, and a lamp to my pathway.

With that being said, I am glad the brother decided to pen a book that can captivate the mind of others. Let's face it, the masses are in uttermost darkness. It's our responsibility to show them what light truly means.

Why do we have individuals like bennett, hugues, hurston, baldwin, dick Gregory, and other notable quill & scroll intellectuals if we're only going to view things from one vantage point. If the material is worth challenging then I am sure that you and the brother can talk civil about it.

Facebook is saturated with individuals who need to take a blue pill, or red pill. Question should be: what pill will you take. It's all about choice. Moving forward we need to solidify all of the massess who are lost due to the popular lifestyle.

Jay z said on his mchg pill "let me be great." This spirit is the cancer that erode the moral fabric of our community. Too many people wanting to be great. not enough people working to make the people great. This is my 2 cents to the price is right.

I pray eberyone will have a blessed day. I am going to receive a word, and give some praise. I pray nothing but safe travels to each of you. I can always depwnd on will to drop knowledge. Keep it up, facebook needs her daily dose of medication. She's sick..

Sunday at 8:35am via mobile · Like · 2

Roderick Balam William Miller, thanks for the forum.

Sunday at 8:35am via mobile · Like · 2

Tashia Pittard I've got to read this book!!!!

Sunday at 8:39am via mobile · Like · 2

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller William Miller cuzzo I was asleep! I will have to read all the comments before I chime in! What I've read so far has been very interesting! I'm a firm believer of God who is the creator & this you know! But I've seen some comments on here that are very judgmental which we all know it is the creators job to judge not mere mortals! I didn't like the name calling & so forth & as a child of God one should be spreading the word in a peaceful way without criticism! Let me read the rest of the comments before I elaborate!

Sunday at 4:01pm via mobile · Like · 1

Lem Taylor Chris, I do not know you but I do know GOD through many books and many languages. If you wish to burn every book in the world and live your life solely from King James bible, you're free to do so. If others choose to read whatever other books they choose for inspiration, they are free to do so. My point to you is before you regress to throwing stones at another for not seeing the WORD through your eyes, know what you're talking about! You're not talking to people who are parrots, (repeat what they hear) or who have never read the bible from cover to cover. If your only frame of reference about the bible is in English, do a little more studying before spewing your ignorance to the world. If not, I will start asking you question to see what you really know.

Sunday at 6:07pm · Like · 3

Chris Baylor So, now we have a spiritual person who thinks calling them-self "spiritual" excludes them from the same facet as the religious realm. If a person calls themselves "spiritual", it's the same as saying they're religious. What is spiritual? Another title man has placed upon themselves to be politically correct, and to avoid revealing unto non-believers they are Christian. After 15,000 words, no one here has mentioned Jesus Christ. So far, no one has said anything credible. Not one word. Everyone keeps talking about this "Creator". Tossing around a few lines of unwarranted scripture even a "parrot" could memorize. I'm not going to argue against a cult. What religion are we talking about? Everyone keeps mentioning a God. What God are we referring to? People on this thread have read the KJV Bible from cover to cover? But have they studied it? Did they understand what they read? There is a big difference. Fact not judgement. Everyone I've encountered on this thread is ignorant. Including me. If you think it's judgement, it's not. It's fact. Everyone is ignorant to some sort of degree, and doesn't know everything. But people on this thread are ignorant to the Word of God. I can see and hear it. If you can't admit you're ignorant, you're arrogant. Fact not judgement. So stop calling me closed minded and educate yourselves with a basic education. Learn what judgement is. Everyone in today's society keeps tossing it around like a hot potato without understanding it's meaning. "Friends" Are all of your 1000 friends on Facebook truly your "friends"? Another hot potato word lost in translation. Society is on a major decay and people on this thread are adding to it. Because I never said people weren't able to read anything they chose, and never judged anyone. Comprehend what you read children.

Sunday at 7:46pm · Like

Chris Baylor My mistake. Roderick rehashed on something I mentioned in my 2nd comment. Reading Psalms and Proverbs is inspirational. Sorry Roderick. That is something credible and worth mentioning. BTW. What happened to my so-called history lesson? LEM-T & Jessica. If you feel it necessary to ask me questions about faith and really want to know the meaning of judgement, by all means, ask away if it makes you feel better. I know what I'm seeing. When people talk about getting into heaven on good deeds, and they could care less if they burn in hell. If you think they are correct in living a life away from God and it's not sin, then your assessment of Christianity is just as skewed as theirs. Perhaps the both of you also need to re-study the Word of God. The Bible is the ultimate source for salvation. To believe reading other literature will make you a righteous person in the eyes of God, you're sadly mistaken. It's why so many people fail. Building their salvation on a pile of sand. It's pathetic. What I say is fact not judgement. Now the difference.

Sunday at 8:00pm · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller My comment wasn't directly towards anyone or anything yet! So before you fly off the handle trying to correct my beliefs in Jesus Christ/God/Holy Spirit try asking questions not jumping to assumptions! Your clearly the angry one quick to flip your lips about others and their salivation! I noticed your ignorance right away but like I said I rather not chime in to this conversation! Your obviously bored with your life, and your looking for someone to entertain your ignorance smh that's what's sad!

Sunday at 9:50pm via mobile · Like · 1

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper WOW for a hardcore Christian....you don't seem to be unlike everyone else here on this earth seeing as this is one of your fb cover photo's..... ummmmm would a bible be more fitting....?!?!?!?!

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper's photo.

Sunday at 9:55pm · Like · 1

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper Jessica Sounstoppable Miller you seam like my type of person!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mad R.E.S.P.E.C.T!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sunday at 10:07pm · Like · 1

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper

Cheri Athbesthairstylist Cooper's photo.

Sunday at 10:08pm · Like

Chris Baylor That's not my Facebook cover. So stop lying to everyone. That was a piece of artwork I created when I was professionally racing cars. So now you're picking on a rogue photo I created 8 years ago? I first uploaded it to see how it would look as a Facebook panorama. Truthfully, there's nothing wrong with the cover. It depicts one of my passions which is racing cars. So now Christians aren't supposed to enjoy life? Now, that's "judgement". No one can honestly counter my statements, so now you're hawking on me based off of one photo, not about my faith in Jesus Christ? Please get a life people. I'm growing tired of winning arguments against non-believers. Seriously. We're not even discussing anything on a Biblical level, but from worldly views based on your skewed perceptions about what you think it is a Christian should be, or faith in Jesus Christ. Please stop commenting. You're embarrassing yourselves.

Sunday at 10:56pm · Like

Chris Baylor Jessica. Who was the one to quickly started flipping their lips off and chime into a discussion that had nothing to do with? You. If you're a super Christian, perhaps you should've shut your mouth and stayed quiet, if your so wise with such great temperament. Obviously your also bored if you have time to read people's comment on Facebook. You're just as pathetic as the bunch. Towards you, I simply said if you'd like to talk about faith, then by all means, do so. But here you are flapping your mouth off about nothing. So now it's turning into more of a personal attack than a creative discussion. People here have made questionable statements about their faith and personal beliefs. It's not judgement, it's fact. So shut your mouth before you open a discussion you seriously don't want to have.

Sunday at 11:05pm · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Like I said I don't entertain ignorance! Since you know so much I was invited to the discussion! You on the other hand were not! I never seen a tag or your name mentioned in the post anywhere! Before you chose to include my name in your comment I was speaking to my cousin! If I want to speak whether I was invited or not that would be my choice! You should probably take your own advice, before giving advice! You can take it personally if you would like honestly I don't care how you feel just the same way you haven't had any concern about how you have made anyone else feel! So read it correctly before adding my name in your comments or keep your ignorance to your self! SUPER CHRISTIAN I think everyone on this forum would have to agree that your the one that *thinks* your a SUPER CHRISTIAN! NO your comment said *BTW* what happened to my so-called history lesson! Not if I would like to talk about faith! Like I said your just flipping your lips looking for someone to entertain your messiness!

Sunday at 11:48pm via mobile · Like · 1

Jackie Untoldtruth Christie Oh yea Chris. Me unfriend you never you're made for good fb. The sharpening of debate skills is a useful tool which you're providing to the forum. You even thinking i would unfriend you clearly shows that your conscience is crying out to you that you're outdoing yourself. Your opinions, educational to all reading and the ones responding.

Sunday at 11:52pm · Like · 3

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Lol shut my mouth! Sound's a little controlling wow! I just wonder do you ever think before opening your mouth! Hmmmmm

Sunday at 11:57pm via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Jessica, your full of yourself. I never said I was taking it personally. Only that you comments are becoming personal attacks, because your are directing your ignorance towards me. The history lesson wasn't for you, it was towards William, as he offered to share history about the Bible. I simply invited you to comment about faith. So how am I being a super Christian? Your ignorance is entertaining in itself. Like I said, don't start a discussion you don't want to have. Shut your mouth and go away.

Sunday at 11:59pm via mobile · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller You're not giving history lessons to anyone so stop it! I wasn't invited by you as I stated my cousin invited me! Your full of yourself and uour comments clarify that! You seem to think you know all about everyone and their personal lives! NOW YOUR GIVING OUT ORDERS LOL OKAY!

Yesterday at 12:06am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Jackie. I offered the unfriending option because you felt uncomfortable with me, "disrespecting your friends". This is not a debate or a discussion. I'm not here to sharpen any skills or win over any souls. It's these kinds of comments that started this fire. Your friends are much ruder and disrespectful than me. If they are so perfect and righteousness in their own way, this "debate" would have ended long ago. As they don't entertain ignorant controlling people like myself. Yet the remarks keep coming.

Yesterday at 12:10am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Jessica. You've just proved my point about the ignorance and lack of comprehension in this thread. Read your last comment. I said William offered a history lesson about the Bible. Also I mentioned in one of my comments, LEM and Jessica, feel free to ask me questions if you deem amy if my comments wrong and self righteous.

Yesterday at 12:14am via mobile · Like

Lem Taylor Question 1: What does the word GOD means? What is the origin of the word.

Yesterday at 12:21am · Like · 1

Lem Taylor Question 2: If the letter J was the last word to enter the English language in 1500's, what was the name of Jesus? What is the Holy name mentioned in the lords prayer?

Lets cut the talk and trying to sound heavy. Know we will see if you know the WORD.

Yesterday at 12:23am · Like · 1

Jackie Untoldtruth Christie This is just an exchanging of the minds participating in this discussion. Nothing more. Everyone is entitled to self expression don't you think? Everyone has expressed themselves well. So many cultures, so many religions, so many leaders, so many opinions, truth, facts, thats what make life beautiful for us to find our own truth. Each of us has our own. Only God can judge

Yesterday at 12:23am · Like · 2

Lem Taylor Who wrote the bible?

Yesterday at 12:24am · Like · 1

Lem Taylor Who were ordained to select the books that is in the bible you read from Chris?

Yesterday at 12:25am · Like · 1

Jackie Untoldtruth Christie I'm quite comfortable in fact very

Yesterday at 12:25am · Like · 1

Lem Taylor Is heaven and hell a physical place? Please explain.

Yesterday at 12:29am · Like

Lem Taylor Is the Lord God, GOD, god, Almighty God referenced in the bible all the same being? Is the God of the old testament the same God described in the new testament? Help a lost soul understand the answers for these questions Chris?

Yesterday at 12:32am · Like · 1

Lem Taylor I enjoy a discussion with someone who is knowledgable and versed in there faith. Lets stop the name calling, insults and start preaching the word. Help this man in search of God understand GOD?

Yesterday at 12:33am · Like · 2

Lem Taylor Will a person who don't speak English or never encountered a bible go to hell?

Yesterday at 12:43am · Like

Lem Taylor What do you believe every true christian should know or understand, especially being that there are so many denominations, versions of the bible and interpretations of the word?

Yesterday at 12:44am · Like · 1

Lem Taylor Who wrote the book of Psalms and Proverbs?

Yesterday at 12:46am · Like · 1

Lem Taylor Do any of these questions matter, or should I just believe?

Yesterday at 12:46am · Like · 1

Lem Taylor If a person is in search of the Word, is researching the bible in Hebrew and/or Greek language a waste of their time? Should we just take the Word as it's written in its many English versions and translations?

Yesterday at 12:54am · Like · 1

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Yet again your mentioning my name which you should have left out your comment because again I never said anything directly towards you nor did I feel the need to ask you anything! You said the history lesson was not for you so before you go flipping your lip once again without correctly reading what I said shut your mouth & open your eyes maybe you'll be able to comprehend what EVERYONE is saying! Your fingers are moving way quicker than your brain & eyes! Stop with the pity party you've been very rude & disrespectful *william has mother abandonment issues* whom you have never even met & you came to this conclusion by a few chosen words because *you understand the human psyche more than most* are you a psychiatrist? And how do you know what you know more than most? Who's full of their own self lol?? Let's not get started on comprehension skills you clearly failed to read that Cheri stated her *FATHER* was a minister before you started flipping your lips forming your opinion about what s

Yesterday at 1:01am via mobile · Like · 1

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller She should or shouldn't be doing! So quit acting like your innocently trying to have a decent discussion because you're clearly trying to act as if your a SUPER CHRISTIAN THATS MORE INTELLIGENT THAN EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM!

Yesterday at 1:03am via mobile · Like · 1

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller The debate would have ended a long time ago if CHRIS BALER wasn't trying to shred everyone's opinions & intelligence! He/She has more comments directed towards everyone on this forum than anyone else! Lol Lem he/she is just ranting & seems to have very little knowledge! But give him/her time to research you're questions and get back to you!

Yesterday at 1:33am via mobile · Like · 1

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller From the KJV I've read it's our job as Christians to save souls and give them the knowledge of christ in a peaceful way! If we are of Christ we should be conformed to the image of christ which is love! Spreading the gospel in a postive & peaceful way! This comment is not directed towards anyone specific! I thought I might throw some food for thought out here!

Yesterday at 1:39am via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor That's a good question LEM. Personally, I do not think it is a waste of time to research the Bible in an alternate language, specifically Greek or Hebrew. As far as the many English translated versions, it's questionable, as many parts of the Bible have been changed to suit the modern reader. Personally, I do prefer the KJV. I would dive deeper into the question, but I'll keep my answer simple for now. But this is my personal opinion regarding your question. Thanks.

Yesterday at 1:57am · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Jessica. You're ignorant so shutup. I won't even bother to read or respond to your comments as you severely lack the intelligence to rebuttal any of my comments. It's like arguing with a pre-schooler. Please be quiet, or contribute something intelligent to the conversation.

Yesterday at 1:59am · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Shut up okay! I was just about to give you a compliment about the last comment but again you stuck your foot in your mouth smh! Name calling but yet you're *supposed to be an adult* go to bed! Better yet remove yourself from this forum! MR Intellegent!

Yesterday at 2:05am via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor I am Mr. Intelligent. Thankyou for finally noticing. Besides, who's the control freak now? Your possibly the worst hypocrite I've ever encountered. Flipping on every subject like a shady politician. But no sweat heart. Wrong again. I stuck my foot in your mouth. Because apparently your mouth is unstoppable. See, I'm mature enough to pay compliments when compliments are do, and admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong. If you posted an intelligent piece, I'd still agree with your comment because I'm not out of control and have anger issues like you. Much more mature than that sweet cakes. Sorry to burst your bubble again.

Yesterday at 2:10am · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Lol reread your comments before calling me a hypocrite! You've had something negative to say about everyone on this forum & yet your calling me a hypocrite? You're right about everything you say sweetheart! I'm not going to keep talking to you it's a waste of time you seem to know everything about everyone! Oh not to mention you're right about everything! Peace be unto you!

Yesterday at 2:19am via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Apparently I am. Right about you shutting up. So thankyou for proving me right once again. What I say isn't negative, it's factual and constructive criticism. If you deem it negative and harmful to your senses, then by all means, stop using social media. Because this is a free world, and people can post what they feel necessary. So please feel free to keep rambling on. When have I been a hypocrite? People on this thread keep making false accusations with nothing to back it up with except a high school education, wild assumptions and world knowledge. I say it's pathetic because it's true. You're pathetic. I thought you were supposed to be showing me how to be an outstanding Christian. Obviously you have no idea what that really means. But it's ok. You're allowed to be stupid. I understand. <----that an="" and="" comprehend="" do="" first="" insult="" it.="" it="" judgement.="" like="" my="" offense.="" opinion="" s="" span="" understand="" you="">

Yesterday at 2:26am · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Really? Factual? If you want me to shut up then do the same and stop responding as you stated you would!

Yesterday at 2:30am via mobile · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Oh and for the last time take your own advice! Because from what I read nobody was talking to me so shut my mouth! But now it's a social media site & people can say what they want & post what they want! Lol you're comical!

Yesterday at 2:36am via mobile · Like · 1

William Montu Miller Chris I really thought you would answer lem's questions. He was trying to guide the convo into a positive and constructive place, but you ignored his questions and decided to argue with my cuzzo. Or maybe you are researching the answers as I type and gonna give your researched answers. At this point everyone keep it progressive. Let us talk a out the word, religions of today's society and where do we go from here. If you have not caught on to Chris's antics yet they are simple, he says things to poke you because he wants you to get off subject, so he can say your off subject. He knows what he's doing. It's entertaining. Classic

Yesterday at 2:36am via mobile · Like · 2

Chris Baylor This is purely a form of entertainment right now. I just returned from the movies. I saw R.I.P.D. It was kind of funny, but it was lacking something. A good rendition of M.I.B though. I saw you comment while I was watching the previews and just had to respond on my super cool smartphone. But this is fun. Now I'm cooking dinner and about to watch a downloaded season of Hell's Kitchen. Ironic right? Lol

Yesterday at 2:37am · Like

William Montu Miller Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller your giving him too much power. He's provoking you on purpose.

Yesterday at 2:39am via mobile · Like · 2

Chris Baylor Oh. Did LEM post a more serious question? Perhaps I didn't see it all. I'll have to scroll back to yesterday. They cut off after 12am. I only saw his question about researching the Bible in different languages, and responded with a simple comment, because I wanted him to lead me.

Yesterday at 2:39am · Like

William Montu Miller Naw he gave you a few questions. I was curious as to your answers.

Yesterday at 2:41am via mobile · Like · 2

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller William Miller I know exactly what's going on! As I stated he wants someone to entertain his ignorance & lack if knowledge! Positivity has not been something he has displayed since he's been on this forum! Just a bunch of bashing which clearly shows he's the Devils advocate! If he was a believer he would not be down talking anyone but trying to guide uneducated nonbelievers to the body of christ! Which he stated he is not trying to do so I'm trying to understand his purpose because clearly it's not educate anyone about God/Jesus Christ!

Yesterday at 2:46am via mobile · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Lol now he missed his post but seen all of mine wow he really is comical! William Miller he has no power I pointed out facts about what he was saying but because he's just ranting he only sees what he chooses!

Yesterday at 2:50am via mobile · Like

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Yesterday at 2:52am via mobile · Like · 1

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It's as if you took a flaming scarecrow, threw it onto the debate floor, yelled “Look, it's my opponent's dangerous straw man,” and then you appeared to save the day by dousing the flames with water. All while your opponent mutters, “That's not my straw man. What just happened?”

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Yesterday at 2:52am via mobile · Like · 2

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller You are right! No doubt cuzzo! Much love!

Yesterday at 2:56am via mobile · Like

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Yesterday at 3:03am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor How pathetic. I miss a few comments because I don't waste my life on Facebook like you 2, and you start bashing me about my faith? Ignorant. But it's fitting since no one has been able to attack me on any other angles, so you direct your attention towards the slightest details. FB art and missing a few posts. Please people. Get a life and an education. Very interesting. I was never trying to educate anyone about Jesus Christ to begin with. I'll stick with something simple. You're dumb. Plain and simple. How can I educate someone who doesn't want to be educated? Obviously people here are seeking answers about things they claim to know everything about but no nothing in truth. Outside of my last 2 comments, nothing about this thread had been purely entertaining. It started to become a joke once Jessica and her air headed comments started hitting the page. So how could I possible get serious with someone who has a tremendous lack of knowledge and respect? I summarized that much. It sounds like everyone here is from the same gene pool, which is why I said I wouldn't argue with a cult. Your entire family and friends are ridiculously backwards with it's principles, morals and ethics. Unbelievable.

Yesterday at 3:14am · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller I really have him upset lol William Miller!

Yesterday at 3:20am via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor BTW. Don't be upset William because you have no intellect of your own. It does seem like all your ideas come from a book off your tallest shelf. In which none of the comments you make are your own. I never picked any one individual comment to argue against. I picked them all. Every comment, every person. I missed LEM simply because I didn't hit the scroll up button. But everyone has been making absurd comments and attacking since the beginning, and I've beaten all of them down with an iron fist. People simply keep attacking and I crush them. So. So much for your straw man theory, analogy or metaphor or whatever you'd like to call it, since everyone here seems to have a biased perception about what things really are. But whatever you'd like to call it. It's pathetic.

Yesterday at 3:21am · Like

Chris Baylor Wow. You really are pretty dense Jessica. Upset? Not by a long-shot. A pathetic one liner. Sure. Please be quiet.

Yesterday at 3:22am · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller All underneath his skin! Hmmmm lol comical entertainment!

Yesterday at 3:25am via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Not at all. Let's do this all day. I can do "unstoppable" one liners all day too. Doesn't require that much intellect, in which I know you don't have. Where are we with comments? 120? Let's go for 200.

Yesterday at 3:26am · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Yet he still hasn't responded to Lem but he continues to respond to us!

Yesterday at 3:27am via mobile · Like · 1

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Lets get it!

Yesterday at 3:29am via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor LEM. I'm kind of puzzled by your questions. Simply, it sounds like you want a seminary school Wikipedia answer that has nothing to do with a person's faith in God Christ Jesus. You're asking allot of surface questions with no relevance. Understanding that God is God in the new and old testament is a good question. But if you want a lecture, this isn't the place for it. You can definitely IM me. Are you going to ask me what was the first Bible made of? Lamb skin or quail eggs? Not trying to be sarcastic, but trying to understand the relevance. Will God ask me about who created the first Bible or where it came from? No. I'm not seeking answers, but already have them. So you can retract your statement about me needing to find God. These questions won't help anyone find God. So what are you getting at? Does God judge on a person's intellect?

Yesterday at 3:32am · Like

Chris Baylor OMG. Jessica. You're crazy. I already posted 2 comments for LEM,so stop making the thread longer. I hope he at least finds my 2 comments. Gheeeez. But if you want to get to 200, let's do it!! Lol. Now this is funny.

Yesterday at 3:35am · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller It will notify him every time you comment so let's keep going! Did I make you laugh yet???

Yesterday at 3:38am via mobile · Like · 1

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Now are you or aren't you trying to help people find God??? I'm confused!

Yesterday at 3:43am via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Yes. I actually did laugh. Very loud. You're funny

Yesterday at 3:47am · Like · 2

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller I know I'm glad!

Yesterday at 3:48am via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Nope. I never said I was trying to help people find God. People keep insinuating such a thing. Neither am I trying to win souls. This all started when I mentioned the Bible. A simple 3 lines. People who typically go off on a tantrum when God is mentioned clearly have issues with Him. So, this is where I am now. It's quit interesting and educational.

Yesterday at 3:50am · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller I'm over here laughing too? Aye did that laugh make you feel a little better??? Can we agree to disagree in this forum on a more positve note?? Last ? How close are we to reaching 200??

Yesterday at 3:51am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Only at 136. I'm always on common ground, willing to agree if something is relevant and factual enough to warrant a positive outcome. I've been laughing the whole time. No need for positive re-enforcement. Was never mad, and will never be. I have the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ on my side. These are just words to me. Perhaps someone will learn from our exchange. But I'm not betting any souls on it.

Yesterday at 3:54am · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller So what if those people don't know God? What if a person doesn't understand God? Or what if a person whom God gives choices, chooses not to walk with God does that necessarily mean they have issues with God??

Yesterday at 3:58am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Not if a person doesn't know God. No. That's like me saying, I have an issue with the sun. If I've lived underground and never saw the sun, how could I have an issue with it. That has been a long standing question. For those who have never heard the gospel, how will they be judged in the end? But if a person does not understand God, then clearly it's an issue that needs to be resolved with more faith, trust, belief or eduction. If God gives a person a choice and they choose to walk away, then they have a problem with authority. God is the authority in this case. Would that not be a problem or issue with God.

Yesterday at 4:04am · Like

Chris Baylor Sorry. I've been speaking too much Japanese lately. I keep forgetting to add question marks. Typing is much harder than speaking.

Yesterday at 4:06am · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller I wouldn't necessarily say it's an issue with God? Why do you believe that it's a problem with authority?? I love to learn! No problem yes its easier to speak than type plus it takes more time!

Yesterday at 4:14am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Because there is always a source for a problem. Isn't there? Are we to blame it on the sky, the land or sea? If we are speaking "religiously" or "spiritually" it pertains to God, and God is an authority figure. He is the ruler and creator of this world and rules over all mankind, whether mankind accepts it or not. He is in control. Most people do not like to be controlled. Even most Christians. Sometimes we often face adversity in the work place with a co-worker or boss. It can sometimes be an authority figure that causes friction and creates a problem resulting in issues with control and freedom. So if we approach a non-believer with the Word of God, God has rules. The Bible is instruction for living and salvation, and many other things. But essentially it can be considered a rule book. People had issues the10 commandments. God's law. Is it not the same?

Yesterday at 4:26am · Like · 1

William Montu Miller Well I tried to push into a discussion ands me this productive. I am on Facebook here and there so stop with the I waste I'm on Facebook all the time. I thought your point was I needed Jesus but I guess not. As far as missing posts, I feel you I do that all the time. We are on Facebook talking bout nothing yet you gauge my intelligence, my so called mommy issues. I'm just happy this thread can not be erased and the proof is in the pudding. When you wanna have a real man to man convo like adults do let me know. I swear you are so entertaining, but I think that's what you want. Oh and yeah I copied and pasted the straw man thing, no biggie. But believe me even though I have many books and read many, I have my own thoughts. So I ask you to please direct no further comments towards me unless you wanna have an actual convo, if you don't that's cool too. May harmony stay with you.

Yesterday at 4:32am via mobile · Like · 1

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Now you said there just words to you right? But words have so much power! So what do you think yoir words were helpful or hurtful?

Yesterday at 4:35am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Blah blah blah. I kind of hammered through your ramblings Williams. You're comment is extremely incoherent yet again. I can't understand a word you're saying. So I'm really not going to comment because clearly you have issues and need mommy love. I don't need harmony, I have Jesus my friend. Honestly, I'm trying to have a delightful discussion with Jessica. I too love to learn as I do not know everything, but always willing to listen...... unlike you. So, could you kindly get out the way and get over yourself? Thanks partner  May God Bless you.

Yesterday at 4:41am · Like

Chris Baylor Helpful or harmful? Not sure. Only God knows where and which seeds are planted. Alternatively speaking, I meant the words of other people. They have no bearing effect or play no part on my heart or mind. I don't get mad, angry, excited, upset or offended when people make comments. I simply see it as an opportunity. Nothing more, nothing less. What do you think?

Yesterday at 4:46am · Like · 1

William Montu Miller I posted that and did not see the exchange between you two. But yeah I get out if the way.

Yesterday at 4:47am via mobile · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller I understand where you're coming and the word's have no bearing affect on you as it is the same here! However, their may be lost souls and us as Christians have to reflect a image of christ so what if one of the persons on this forum or reading the comments was influenced by the words being exchanged on this forum! Everyone is not stable in their relationship with God & I think that our choice of words can be helpful or harmful to individual that is not stable! I also believe that even when we're not intentionally trying to lead others or save souls we're still being looked at as a representative of christ so we always need to speak in a christly manner! Tell me what you think!

Yesterday at 5:02am via mobile · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Issues with authority yes I believe that could be a reason that some choose not to walk with God! Although, all persons are under some type of authority regardless to if it's God's authority or the authority of man kind! Couldn't it also stem from worldly issues that they choose not to walk with God? Or do you believe that the underlying issue is still with God!

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Chris Baylor That is true. But no one is perfect. No one has ever reached perfection. Not everyone who believes in God is 100% Christ like. That is why God Christ Jesus died for our sins, because we all fall short of the glory, and can never do it on our own. So whether or not most of us achieve 10% or 90% of what Christ was like, it's not up to us to decide what is exceptable to God or not. We keep using our tiny minds and playing God, trying to measure God's understanding and love with us with a micro ruler. The Bible is a guide to become more Christ like, not to become Christ himself. I agree, people are always watching. But we need to get out of our own way and let God be in control. My fiance is a newborn Christian, and there were things about her I could not change. These were obvious changes from her old religion, i.e. lying and getting angry. But these were things I was powerless to change. So I prayed to God about it and asked Him to touch her heart and open her mind. But God also works through us. Perhaps I will never achieve Christ like behavior, and continue to be who God created me to be. Perhaps my 40% Christ like ability at this time is perfect for God, but imperfect in the eyes of man. But it is the 40% God is able to work with, and may work on others. Who says my raunchy attitude won't change the most hardcore unbeliever? What if they despise 90% Christians, and need someone down to earth? That non-believer may say, "Wow, I don't need to be perfect? I can be like this guy, and God will accept me?". They might open their mind or heart, accept God and learn His Word. It's for us to get out of the way and let God be in control. Not for us to decide, but to continue to strive to be Christ like.

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Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller I totally agree with that comment right there 100% and your right nobody is perfect & nobody will ever reach perfection! I do agree that someone could look at this forum and say hey this guy is down to earth! I also believe their are so many that have misconstrued knowledge about God and think we're just confused individuals (lol) with a lack of biblical knowledge & also those that want to come to christ but say hey their no different than us as sinners (because they don't know God yet) so why waste my time! I'm not ever trying to correct or fix anybody because that is for God to do but spread the word in a positive manner that's all I was saying!

Yesterday at 5:30am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Yes. Everyone is under some kind of authority. But authority under mankind is tangible. It's something we can see, hear, touch and smell. Would you rather have a relationship with yourself, or with another person? Most people would choose a real person over a fantasy. If you threaten a person with arrest from a police officer or Santa Claus, which do you think they be more inclined to believe and react to? But we are talking about presenting people with an option to salvation. That involves God. Not a blank ideal. Yes. Real world issues do exist. For people who do not know God, it's easy to blame the world system and everything in it. But for those who are aware of God, they usually blame God. Rape, abuse, death, hurt, sadness, loneliness, etc. Most people say "Why is God doing this to me?". "Where was God when I needed him". "Why did God let my brother die?". "Why did God let my uncle rape me?". Try presenting a Godly solution to a person with these sorts of issues, they generally resist God. Or some become so caught up in the world with it's false gods, knowledge becomes their god, even if nothing bad has happened to them. But they find a reason not to trust Him.

Yesterday at 5:33am · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller It's true it's not up for anyone to decide what is acceptable to God and what's not! But doesn't the bible tell us what is acceptable in God's eyes and what he expects from those that believe? Yes I know that we all will never be able to live up to all expectations in the bible but we're definitely supposed to ask God for guidance to become who he has purposed us to be! Tell me what you think!

Yesterday at 5:38am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Yes. True. James1:5 says "if any of you lack in wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally". Not sure how much time it takes to be a super Christian. But again, how do we know what God wants us to be, and at what time and period? In His eyes, you and I may be perfect to Him. Again. Let us not judge by ourselves. We keep tying to measure what is perfect in God's eyes. Yes, the Bible does tell us what is acceptable. Like 1st and 2nd Corinthians, Galations, Romans. Everywhere. Does not mean we will achieve all these things in our lifetime. Are you striving for perfection in your own eyes?

Yesterday at 5:50am · Like · 1

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller I kind of knew how you were going to respond to the question about worldly issues! Yes I've tried approaching an individual about God that has encountered the death of his son and he blames God so of course he was resistant to God! The enemies job is to make people believe that it's God's fault and so many blame God for things that happen in their life! I believe those individuals don't really know God or lack understanding of who God is!

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Chris Baylor So, it is our job to increase our understanding of the Word of God and present it to others. But opportunities will present themselves. It's not really prudent to force our views upon others. That's not what I was doing in this thread. I simply mentioned the Bible, seemed like someone took offense, so I decided to comment further. For me to decipher whether it was impactful on a persons life, helping or hurting, is not an assessment I can fully interpret with my tiny mind. That is God's job. What if God intended for me to piss some people off? Perhaps they would go on a rampage seeking answers, later to find the true answers God always intended for them to have. This is God's world. I can only ask for understanding, wisdom and pray the Holy Spirit continues to guide me through this world onto the next. Even if I remain a 40% or 70% Christian, and only reach 71%, or drop down to 9%. My faith in Christ will always be the same. Forever unwavering.

Yesterday at 6:03am · Like · 1

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller No I'm not striving to be perfect in my own eyes but I ask God to help me be who he has purposed me to be because I'm far from perfect! Pease don't think I'm insinuating anything from the questions I'm just asking your point of view! I like your point of view on thay question very interesting & out of the box!

Yesterday at 6:04am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Sure. It was only a question. I did not think you were insinuating anything. Just curious. If I don't ask, I don't know. My apologies if I sound a tad bit rude.

Yesterday at 6:07am · Like · 1

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller No problem!

Yesterday at 6:09am via mobile · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Interesting you live in mn! Lol so do I that's crazy! Never would bof thought that you lived here!

Yesterday at 6:22am via mobile · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Well I must get some shut eye! Chris it's been a quite interesting convo but I do not think we'll reach our goal of 200 comments because I'm tired lbvvs! So lets continue later today! Peace be unto you!

Yesterday at 6:26am via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Whaaaaaaaaaa? Lol. Hmmm, not crazy though. I always give glory to God, and I think He put me here for a reason. I'm only here for work, but I really miss my Church back home. But being here has also been a good experience. I've listened to messages from a host a new pastors and it's been enlightening. Gained allot of extra knowledge. Haven't found a good Church here. Too many and allot do not preach the Word of God. So I stick the the radio's and internet. Kind of sad without fellowship.

Yesterday at 6:30am · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Ok. Nice talking to you. Thankyou for your insight, and have a good night. God Bless

Yesterday at 6:31am · Like · 1

Lem Taylor Before we can discuss GOD, we need to agree on a God premise. If your only reference of God is through an English text, please do a little more research to why the term God is used in so many ways in the old and new testament. When translated in Hebrew, it changes meaning which provide a bit more clarity. Please research how certain kings, and men were also called Lord, so you do not confuse it with God. Before the letter J was introduce in the late 1500s, Who you call Jesus Christ was known by another name. I ask question so you can research and become more versed in your belief. When I do not know an answer, I research it. The word God is a german word with a meaning. Please do your research. Would love to have a honest and real discussion with you. Your misrepresenting yourself brother.

Yesterday at 2:05pm · Like

Lem Taylor I believe Paul introduce the word Christ in the new testament. In my research, Paul came about a century later on the scene after who you call Jesus Christ was crucified. He came with the Christ concept and added so many books in the New testament.Research the Council of Nicea and why they selected what books they felt should be removed and added to the bible we read today. Next, tell me who ordained them to do so? Before I align my spirit with any deity, I research the authors, and their intentions. King James was a serious character and I personally don't trust anything coming from him. But that's just me.

Yesterday at 2:21pm · Like

Chris Baylor LEM. Misrepresenting myself? I'm not the one walking around in a shark's suit. Which is exactly why I didn't take your bait. Because you're the one misrepresenting the Word of God. I knew where you were going with this, because most of your inquiries and evidence are superficial. The devil is the the author of confusion, and guy, you're no saint. If you want to continue basing your faith off of skepticism, timelines and mistrust, then by all means, fulfill your faith with the knowledge of the world as much as you'd like. 1 Corinthians 3:18 says "Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise." I've encountered jokers like yourself countless times, which is typically why I make pre assessments based on someones comments, which most people consider to be judgmental, because I have so much experience dealing with your kind I can sniff out the anti-Christ's way before they get to first base. Isiah 5:21 also warns me of people like you. "Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!". I don't need to align myself with anyone but God. You're not him. The Bible says we should be "likeminded". So there is no reason to align anything, but our hearts with God. Perhaps you should work on your faith and belief before you start analyzing God, trying to pick everything apart. I don't need a bunch of hardcore facts, as the Word of God has already been spoken. The proof is in the pudding. If my faith was false, or if I was following the wrong doctrine, I wouldn't see God working in my life everyday. So on that note. 1 Corinthians 8:2 "And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know",

Yesterday at 5:53pm · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Galations 6:3 "For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself." If you can't understand the KJV, perhaps a more modern version could help you understand better with it's translation suited for today's language.

Yesterday at 5:57pm · Like · 1

Lem Taylor No point. Have a good one Chris!

23 hours ago · Like

Lem Taylor The devil said he shall deceive the whole world. When a man call on the name of a deity and don't know the origin or definition of the name he calls on, he has been deceived!

23 hours ago · Like

Lem Taylor You can quote 1000 times over, but it still won't hide the fact that you do not know your Bible. Before you step in an arena to present yourself. STUDY so you don't look and sound like a fool and embarrass a true christian.

23 hours ago · Like

Chris Baylor Embarrass a true Christian? Like I said, the devil is the author of confusion. Even the last statement you made is conflicting. "Embarrass a true Christian"?? Either that means I'm a true Christian embarrassing myself, which means if I'm a true Christian, that means I know what I'm talking about. Or, you're a true Christian, and I embarrassed you. You're attacking the Bible and God himself. So everyone else is wrong and you're right? You are the work of the devil. Please go away.

22 hours ago · Like · 1

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Chris Baler I've seen a change in the way you respond to comments! Positivity heyyyy!

22 hours ago via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Lol. Perhaps because we are talking about God now.

22 hours ago · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Either way I see a change which is always good! You got your point across in a positive way! *patting you on the back lol*

22 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Lol. You're too funny Jess. "Chris Baler"? I like that name. Can I have it?  But hey, not trying to sound arrogant. But I have methods for each individual and situation. I'm not a changed person. No way I had an epiphany overnight. Just years of exp...See More

22 hours ago · Like · 1

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Lol thats why your name didn't pop up! Lol I guess you can have free of charge lmbo! I just created a whole new name for you! I'll have to admit I am pretty funny! Oh ok well I like this # best!... chris Chris Baylor haaaa got it right!

22 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1

Whit L Johnson -.- Jackie Untoldtruth Christie Apparently I am uneducated and ignorant so I rather not continue in this conversation... I am happy to see all the commentary though and that a simple book cover spawned this.

about an hour ago · Like

Chris Baylor Thankyou for rejoining the party, although 2 days late. We're all ignorant and uneducated to some degree. Including me. So don't feel bad. The only opinion that matters in this world is yours. But we're all here to learn, and no one has all the answ...See More

about an hour ago via mobile · Like · 1

Whit L Johnson @Chris Baylor thank you but I was being sarcastic. I know that we do not know everything, I am a teacher and a masters student. I also know that the biggest thing that is a problem in this world is the way that people say things. Calling me ignorant,...See More

about an hour ago · Like

Chris Baylor Hmmnn. Perhaps working on your sarcasim would benefit us all. Calling yourself ignorant and educated is the least bit humorous. Possibly you're a book worm who lacks social edicate? That comment was worse than a terrorist dodging for the nearest planeadmitting he had a toy bomb on his underwear. But it's ok. Like I said, most of us have allot to learn. Including "master teachers"..... Whatever self proclaimed title that is. Btw. Calling someone ignorant isn't impolite. But I guess it's matter of perspective. Oh well. Have a good day  My fingers are killing me typing on this unsmart phone.

about an hour ago via mobile · Like

Jessicia SoUnstoppable Miller Chris Baylor yes the proof is in the pudding! Besides all the information obtained & studied is made by mortals so who's to say that all the information that's given is true! Picking the bible apart will not change the bible nor will it change who GOD or Jesus Christ is! I study the word and I believe his word!

51 minutes ago via mobile · Like · 1

Chris Baylor Yes Yes Yes. Preach and teach it sister

43 minutes ago via mobile · Like

Chris Baylor Except I do have to argue, many people believe the Bible was created solely by mankind. Not true. I always have to elaborate. Mankind was like a conduit, or channel for knowledge and wisdom. I always ask people. "What? Do you think God wrote and published a book Himself?". He gave knowledge and wisdom to mankind so that we would not perish with this world. He gave us a path to salvation because He created us and still loves us unconditionally, regardless of our sinful nature. People ask what the purpose of life is. This is it. Instead of damnation, we are given a life and a choice. Some of us have a fraction of a second. Some have 2 lifetimes. But I digress. Of course the Bible was written with the hands of men, but the wisdom and knowledge was given by God. It was then clarified by Jesus Christ, who was God in the flesh. Yes. God came to live amongst us. But not in His body. Yes He held 2 titles, and a 3rd, but is still 1 God. These things are hard to comprehend for those who do not fully except God or understand the Bible. But I would like to know what anyone else thinks. Same. Different. Not at all. I'm curious.

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